
Goals of Care After Severe Neurologic Injury
7m 1s encounter
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The scenario
Your role
You are the Pediatric Critical Care Fellow on service in the PICU.
Your patient, nine-year-old Mateo Lopez, has a severe hypoxic ischemic brain injury following a near-drowning event seven days ago. He is now on hospital day six, eighteen hours after an acute respiratory decompensation that required intubation, and his neurologic prognosis is poor. His mother, Maria Lopez, is his legal medical decision-maker.
She has requested this meeting to understand what the team's findings mean and to discuss prognosis, code status, and whether continued invasive support is in her child's best interest.
Objectives
- Demonstrate empathy and emotional presence
- Discuss code status clearly and in plain language
- Elicit goals of care and patient/family values
- Align clinical recommendations with stated family goals
Listen to the recording
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The final transcript sentence cuts off after the mother states her decision about CPR. The recording and feedback are unedited.
▶Transcript23
Doctor, I have heard a lot of things in the last week. Can you tell me what exactly this means for my son?
Mrs. Lopez, I first wanted to introduce myself. My name is Dr. Ponzak, and we are here to support you as best we can. I recognize how challenging this journey has been.
Thank you, Doctor Ponzak... I appreciate that. I just... I am so tired, and I do not know what to think anymore. Can you help me understand what is really happening with Mateo?
Yes, we can go ahead and walk through that together. Can you share with me what some of your thoughts or concerns are, and we can take them one by one?
Okay... I think my biggest question is... is there any chance he wakes up? They keep saying his prognosis is uncertain, and I do not really know what that means for him.
Unfortunately, it's incredibly challenging to recover from such a severe injury that Mateo sustained to his brain with the loss of oxygen that he had.
I see... so you are saying... he probably will not wake up? I just... I keep hoping, you know? Could his brain recover at all, even a little?
I understand that there is a lot of unknowns and uncertainty. We can only make our best prediction based on the information that we have, and given the amount of time, um, his recent hospital stay and his trajectory, I worry that he will not wake up.
Okay... okay. That is... that is so hard to hear. I am sorry... I just need a moment.
If he... if he did survive somehow, what would his life look like? Would he know me?
What are your goals for him if he lives a very different life than the one that he was living just seven days ago?
That is... a hard question. Mateo, he... he loved sports. He was always running, always moving.
He valued being independent so much. We talked once, just in passing... he told me he would not want to suffer for a long time. I think... I think he would not want to live a life where he could not be himself.
I don't know exactly what his life will look like if he is able to survive the next several days or what his neurologic recovery will be, but it will depend on what your goals are for him and how you'd like him to live his life. That will help us understand how we should continue supporting him moving forward.
I understand... I think. So we have to decide what kind of care makes sense for him, based on what he would have wanted. Can I ask... what happens if his heart stops?
What would CPR actually look like for him right now? I do not really know what that means.
There's a lot of different things that we are doing to continue to support him, including breathing for him and feeding him, which he is unable to do by himself.We are also having him on a lot of medications that are helping to support his system overall. As we change these medications, I don't know that his body can do that on its own.
I see... so he is being held up by all these machines and medicines right now. But if his heart did stop... what would you actually do to him? I want to understand what CPR would mean for a little boy like him.
Yes, and we can specifically talk about what that would mean. CPR would be chest compressions and breathing for him. It can be quite intense.
It can cause ribs to break, and it can be a very stressful situation, but we could hope to restart his heart again. Is this something that you would want us to do should his heart stop?
Oh... I did not know it was like that. Breaking his ribs... that sounds so violent for such a little boy. If we... if we said no to that... are we giving up on him?
I do not want him to think I gave up.
I do not think that you're giving up on him. You are taking the information that you have to make what you believe to be is the best choice for your son, to have a life that you feel like he would want.
Thank you for saying that... I needed to hear that. I think... I think Mateo would not want that. He would not want to be hurt like that, just to maybe come back to a life he could not live the way he wanted.
Is he... is he in any pain right now, Doctor?
Right now, he is in no pain.
Okay... that helps me. That helps me so much to know he is not suffering right now. I think... I think I am starting to understand.
If his heart stops, I do not want you to do CPR on him. I want him to be peaceful. Is that... is that the right thing?
I think that's the right thing for him in your family.
Thank you, Doctor... thank you for being honest with me, and for being kind. I think I understand now. I know what matters for Mateo... he would want to be peaceful, and to not suffer.
That ...
Feedback
How to read this feedback
Every score is written as value / max, so you can see both the points earned and the points available. A spoken simulation can’t surface everything a real visit would, so when something couldn’t be judged fairly, the feedback labels it instead of holding it against you. Here’s what each label means.
(simulation limitation)The voice/text modality physically can't reveal it
e.g. eye contact, body language, facial affect, physical exam, EHR documentation
(no opportunity)The scenario never created the occasion
e.g. conversation ended before this step; situation never arose
(not applicable)Out of scope for this case
e.g. a domain that doesn't apply here
A not assessable item does not affect the score. The format did not give you a fair chance to show that behavior, so the item is excluded. That is different from “Not demonstrated,” where the moment was there and the skill didn’t come through. Only the second one reflects on how the encounter went.
For competency frameworks with levels, some scenarios can only assess a competency up to a certain level because the higher levels turn on behaviors a single spoken encounter can’t surface. When a scenario’s ceiling is below Level 4, that milestone is still shown for its formative value but is “Not in overall grade” . It doesn’t count toward the overall grade, so a case that can’t fully exercise a competency never reads as a shortfall.
KEECC-A Evaluation
Element 1: Build the Relationship
Evidence: The clinician opens with a warm self-introduction ("we are here to support you as best we can"), acknowledges the difficulty of the journey, and uses empathic language throughout ("I understand," "I do not think that you're giving up on him"). The clinician responds to Mrs. Lopez's emotional distress (e.g., her fear of "giving up") with direct, validating reassurance. Tone is consistently compassionate and patient-centered. However, there are limited explicit verbal acknowledgments of emotion in the moment (e.g., no direct "I can see how painful this is for you" type statements), and non-verbal cues cannot be fully assessed from transcript alone.
Rating: 4: Very Good
Element 2: Open the Discussion
Evidence: The clinician introduces themselves and acknowledges the context. When Mrs. Lopez asks what is happening with Mateo, the clinician invites her to share her thoughts and concerns ("Can you share with me what some of your thoughts or concerns are, and we can take them one by one?"): a good agenda-setting move. However, there is no explicit "is there anything else?" to elicit a full set of concerns before proceeding, and the agenda is only partially negotiated rather than fully co-constructed.
Rating: 3: Good
Element 3: Gather Information
Evidence: The clinician uses open-ended questions effectively ("Can you share with me what some of your thoughts or concerns are?"; "What are your goals for him if he lives a very different life?"). The clinician listens actively and follows the mother's lead, allowing her to express concerns about prognosis, CPR, and Mateo's pain. However, there is limited use of clarifying or summarizing techniques: the clinician does not explicitly reflect back or summarize what has been gathered before moving forward. The information-gathering is functional but not deeply structured.
Rating: 3: Good
Element 4: Understand the Patient's and Family's Perspective
Evidence: This is a strong area. The clinician explicitly elicits Mrs. Lopez's goals for Mateo ("What are your goals for him if he lives a very different life?"), which draws out rich information about Mateo's values (independence, sports, not wanting to suffer). The clinician acknowledges the mother's fear of "giving up" and directly addresses it. The exploration of Mateo's prior expressed wishes ("he told me he would not want to suffer for a long time") is elicited skillfully. Cultural/contextual factors (e.g., family structure, spirituality) are not explicitly explored, which is a minor gap.
Rating: 4: Very Good
Element 5: Share Information
Evidence: The clinician explains the clinical situation in accessible language (e.g., describing CPR as "chest compressions and breathing," noting it can break ribs and be intense). The prognosis is communicated honestly but compassionately ("I worry that he will not wake up"). However, there is no teach-back or explicit check for understanding (e.g., "Can you tell me what you've understood so far?"), and encouragement of questions is implicit rather than explicit. Information-sharing is clear but lacks verification of comprehension.
Rating: 3: Good
Element 6: Reach Agreement on Problems and Plans
Evidence: The clinician actively involves Mrs. Lopez in the decision-making process, framing care choices around Mateo's values and her goals. The mother arrives at a decision (no CPR) and the clinician affirms it ("I think that's the right thing for him in your family"). However, the clinician does not explicitly check Mrs. Lopez's willingness or ability to follow through, does not identify additional supports or resources (e.g., palliative care team, chaplain, social work), and does not confirm the plan in concrete terms (e.g., documenting a DNR order). The shared decision-making process is present but incomplete.
Rating: 3: Good
Element 7: Provide Closure
Evidence: The conversation ends with the mother expressing understanding and acceptance, and the clinician affirms her decision. However, there is no explicit summary of the plan, no discussion of next steps (e.g., "We will put this in writing," "Here is what happens next"), no mention of what to expect going forward, and no invitation for further questions or concerns. The emotional closure is present, but the practical closure is largely absent.
Rating: 2: Fair
Summary Table
| Element | Rating |
|---|---|
| 1. Build the Relationship | 4 |
| 2. Open the Discussion | 3 |
| 3. Gather Information | 3 |
| 4. Understand the Patient's/Family's Perspective | 4 |
| 5. Share Information | 3 |
| 6. Reach Agreement on Problems and Plans | 3 |
| 7. Provide Closure | 2 |
| Total KEECC-A Score | 22 / 35 |
Overall Narrative
This clinician demonstrates genuine compassion and skill in the relational and perspective-eliciting domains of the encounter. The goals-of-care conversation is handled sensitively, and the mother reaches a meaningful, values-aligned decision. The primary gaps are in the structural elements: no teach-back, no explicit agenda-setting, no identification of support resources, and a notably incomplete closure that lacks next steps, follow-up planning, or a final invitation for questions. Strengthening these structural habits would elevate an already empathic performance to an excellent one.
Formative use only. This feedback is AI-generated for education and professional development. It is not a clinical judgment or a credentialing determination, and must not be used as the sole basis for any promotion, remediation, credentialing, or other consequential decision. Responsibility for evaluation and personnel decisions stays with the program and its faculty.
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